I am not sure you have read what we mentioned before but crown at 4 may not be technically possible as not enough space.
Pre-Order Borealis Medusa 300m Diver Watch - Interchangeable Bezel
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marc pixler
Master Apprentice WIS
I'm all in as usual.looks stunning
Still early days so designs are work in progress.
Nevertheless would like to share with you a project we have been working on the Borealis Medusa.
A 300m lugless automatic diver watch with a interchangeable bezel system and a diameter of 45mm size.
We are expecting it to be powered by a Miyota 9015.
Pre-order won´t start before the Estoril project is ready.
I feel the crown at 3 is fine.
Yes, I had a feeling that the interchangeable bezels might have something in common with the Manta Ray !!! Looking forward to what's in store !
Would also like to see what the reverse of the watch would look like. Will it be able to accommodate different straps like Nato, Zulu, metal bracelets, etc, or only for two piece straps ?
Also is it really necessary to have the name MEDUSA, on the dial ? Can we keep it clean as possible ?
Oh, BTW, I already announced this new diver in the WUS forum....
Regards,
Yes, I had a feeling that the interchangeable bezels might have something in common with the Manta Ray !!! Looking forward to what's in store !
Would also like to see what the reverse of the watch would look like. Will it be able to accommodate different straps like Nato, Zulu, metal bracelets, etc, or only for two piece straps ?
Also is it really necessary to have the name MEDUSA, on the dial ? Can we keep it clean as possible ?
Oh, BTW, I already announced this new diver in the WUS forum....
Regards,
The text on dial will be further refined. We are at beginning of design process. Working now on technical drawings we find very hard to keep 22mm lugs and crown at 4. The drilled lugs start at 5 o´clock so no space for the crown thread with 22mm lugs.
We have to be aware 45mm is a small size for a lugless design.
Probably my bad here as I may not have explained well.
The bezel system we intend to use is the same one of the Prometheus Manta Ray.
This means that:
- not only bezel that is supplied with the Borealis Medusa will work. All bezels made for the Prometheus Manta Ray will.
- with release of the Prometheus Manta Ray 2.0 there will be many options in terms of bezels
- in future a lot more bezels will be mabe including bronze, DLC, titanium.
This is an interesting project that I will definitely be following. The Halios Puck is the one watch that I absolutely regret flipping, so I'm definitely interested in this.
A few thoughts:
The "wet sand" dial can look phenomenal when the sun hits it.
I like your first proposed hour hand (the fat chubby one): While I have a Seafarer II on order I'm not a fan of the big fat arrows. The first one you proposed is something unique and different. It's also kind of a twist on the Mercedes hand (similar, but not the same as the hour hand on the Grand Seiko divers). I like the look and really like that it is unique.
Personally, I really like the minute (and 30 sec) marks around the dial, particularly the way they alternate. I don't think they are distracting, they are a design element. I've seen renderings of other divers with a lot of minute marks that I thought looked overwhelming, but when I saw pics of the final product they looked great. I'm not concerned about this. You will have to make sure your dial manufacturer/printer is very precise.
What material is planned for the bezel insert? Aluminum, ceramic, sapphire? -- your reply above explaining the bezel was posted as I was typing this.
I look forward to seeing how this plays out.
A few thoughts:
The "wet sand" dial can look phenomenal when the sun hits it.
I like your first proposed hour hand (the fat chubby one): While I have a Seafarer II on order I'm not a fan of the big fat arrows. The first one you proposed is something unique and different. It's also kind of a twist on the Mercedes hand (similar, but not the same as the hour hand on the Grand Seiko divers). I like the look and really like that it is unique.
Personally, I really like the minute (and 30 sec) marks around the dial, particularly the way they alternate. I don't think they are distracting, they are a design element. I've seen renderings of other divers with a lot of minute marks that I thought looked overwhelming, but when I saw pics of the final product they looked great. I'm not concerned about this. You will have to make sure your dial manufacturer/printer is very precise.
What material is planned for the bezel insert? Aluminum, ceramic, sapphire? -- your reply above explaining the bezel was posted as I was typing this.
I look forward to seeing how this plays out.
For the Medusa launch we will either provide a ceramic bezel or a stainless steel with a PVD insert. As this is a proprietary system shared with Prometheus for the Manta Ray we are opening doors to future unlimited customizations.
Yes, the ceramic version is one of our favourites. Be aware bezels can be swapped easily with the Prometheus Manta Ray bezel system.
Pakz
Patriarch WIS
On the discussion about the crown, I feel like keeping it where it is (at 3) is better, to give a supplementary level of differentiation with respect to the puck. That, plus obviously the technical reasons, seem to me reason enough to keep it at 3.
About the hands, same as stewie, I have softer feelings for the big one with a "mercedes/grand seiko" flavour to it. It really is different and give more personality to the watch (something it needs, as the shape in very basic). Which leads me to the realisation that it's that point that kept me away from the puck and makes me doubtful about this one... A simple cylinder slice seems a very "bland" shape, and it really needs something to make it appealing (to me, obviously, since so many are in love with both Halios' model and this proposed Borealis)
About the hands, same as stewie, I have softer feelings for the big one with a "mercedes/grand seiko" flavour to it. It really is different and give more personality to the watch (something it needs, as the shape in very basic). Which leads me to the realisation that it's that point that kept me away from the puck and makes me doubtful about this one... A simple cylinder slice seems a very "bland" shape, and it really needs something to make it appealing (to me, obviously, since so many are in love with both Halios' model and this proposed Borealis)
Pakz
Patriarch WIS
So far the only design that has me (a bit) interested.Yes, the ceramic version is one of our favourites. Be aware bezels can be swapped easily with the Prometheus Manta Ray bezel system.
Maybe making the minutes hand more special (pure rectangle? Lego-ish like on the Sinn U1? Only the tip lumed and standing after a thinner flat black part?) and/or the markers on the dial (arrow-ish like the hour hand?) could push me over the fence...
AVS_Racing
Master Apprentice WIS
I would prefer the crown at 4 if technically possible. Also I like the cleaner version of the bezel, as full 60 markers are too busy since the dial has minute markers already. I actually like the chubby hands maybe better if they were a bit longer ie: minute hand actually touches the minute markers. I find it annoying when the hands don't reach the markers.
What crystal will be offered?
BTW will this be delayed for a long time? as other micro brands have already delayed models for quite some time till at least the end of the year to even restock existing models.
What crystal will be offered?
BTW will this be delayed for a long time? as other micro brands have already delayed models for quite some time till at least the end of the year to even restock existing models.
In case you haven't read it is technically impossible to fit a crown at 4 with 22mm lugs on a 45mm diameter circumference and having a movement inside.
For a longer minute hand it will be necessary to open tooling for the hands and it comes at premium so it is not going to be done.
The Borealis Medusa will share the bezel system with the Prometheus Manta Ray so plenty of bezel options will be available with the release of the Manta Ray 2.0 that will please most tastes. The Medusa together with the Manta Ray will be one of the most customizable watches by customers that can change its look on a daily basis not just when ordering the watch.
We have no current delays. Our models are on schedule. We were already predicting a longer delivery time for the 9015 on the Estoril. That is why all parts are ready and we are just waiting for movements. However expected delivery time frame is July since day one and we are in May.
Also the Seafarer II assembly is starting next week. The Borealis Bull Shark prototype is progressing and on schedule for delivery in November.
When we post a scheduled delivery we try not to have a big deviation from it and rely on precise information from our suppliers. If orders with Miyota are placed now deliveries are in about 6-8 months time. However be aware movements will increase further in September for the 9015 movement.
I'm sorry, with the following post, I tought it was a possbility:
We are trying to see if there is space for crown to be at 4 o'clock but seems very difficult due to the lug positioning.
Both are in the works. At this stage the most critical and important part are the technical designs.
Priorities:
- making it fully compatible with the Prometheus Manta Ray Bezels (past and future ones)
- working on a slimmer design in terms of thickness (designing however for NH35 movement though we will offer the Miyota 9015 in this series but we want to prevent ourselves from future shortages in later series/iterations) so that it can be compatible with Miyota 9015, ETA 2824-2, Seiko's NH-NE series.
Thanks, definitely in for a pvd version or a white dial stainless version! As for the movement I've owned all three and would be fine with any of them! Really excited to see this progress! I've never pre-ordered anything, mostly due to my lack of patients, but I will definitely be jumping on this early!
Maria,
I really don't see the point of all those dial markers. IMO, they just clutter up the dial. I recommend that the minute markers be moved out to the outer dial ring, and remove the markers in between them. Then, making the minute markers a little heavier(ie. wider) would probably be desirable.
Thanks!
Ed P.
I really don't see the point of all those dial markers. IMO, they just clutter up the dial. I recommend that the minute markers be moved out to the outer dial ring, and remove the markers in between them. Then, making the minute markers a little heavier(ie. wider) would probably be desirable.
Thanks!
Ed P.
New render iterations for the Borealis Medusa - now with additional colors
