Borealis Bull Shark - Fixed Bezel Poll

[Borealis Watch Admin]

Please choose which type of fixed bezel to be used for the Bull Shark project

Option A - fixed bezel with engraved numbers

Option B: plain bezel

 

[SDGenius]

I think it depends on the crystal used, the plain would look better with a higher dome and the engraved would look better with a more subtle dome or even a chamfered flat. I imagine, for cost purposes this will share its crystal with the diver bezel equipped model, so I'd take that into consideration.

 

[Daniel Smith]

I think it depends on the crystal used, the plain would look better with a higher dome and the engraved would look better with a more subtle dome or even a chamfered flat. I imagine, for cost purposes this will share its crystal with the diver bezel equipped model, so I'd take that into consideration.

Great comment.

 

[Pakz]

I voted for engraved... But I totally get the appeal of the naked one... particularly with a high dome or even better a "chimney" like crystal (e.g. like on the Scorpionfish).

 

[SimpleWatchMan]

I voted for option A.

But if fixed bezel is suppose be non rotatable, then my answer is none.

May I know what is the purpose of having a 2000 m water resistance, diver catogory watch without unidirectional rotating bezel and lumed pip?

Such a waste of the WR, imho.

 

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE="SimpleWatchMan, post: 7613, member: 659"May I know what is the purpose of having a 2000 m water resistance, diver catogory watch without unidirectional rotating bezel and lumed pip?[/QUOTE]
I'd argue what is the purpose of having 2000m in the first place, since I'd bet $50 that noone in this forum and probably noone who ever buys one will actually ever dive to that depth any time soon. 200-300m is likely more than sufficient for any regular water activities.

The attraction is that the sturdiness and strength required to achieve a 2km WR makes the watch durable and suitable for e.g. mountain biking or other action endeavours where impact, mud/water ingress etc are likely.

 

[SimpleWatchMan]

[QUOTE="SimpleWatchMan, post: 7613, member: 659"May I know what is the purpose of having a 2000 m water resistance, diver catogory watch without unidirectional rotating bezel and lumed pip?
I'd argue what is the purpose of having 2000m in the first place, since I'd bet $50 that noone in this forum and probably noone who ever buys one will actually ever dive to that depth any time soon. 200-300m is likely more than sufficient for any regular water activities.

The attraction is that the sturdiness and strength required to achieve a 2km WR makes the watch durable and suitable for e.g. mountain biking or other action endeavours where impact, mud/water ingress etc are likely.

I understand the attraction of sturdiness and strength of a 2km WR watch. No problem, I want one too.

What I don't understand is how a vintage homage of Rolex 6204 ended up as a non diver now.

Anyway, imho, any Casio G-Shock will be a much better application for your stated e.g. mountain biking or other action endeavours where impact, mud/water ingress etc are likely. That is why G-Shocks are the most favoured watch used by armed forces around the world, including extreme sports.

 

[Pakz]

Well a diver watch does not necessarily have to have a rotating bezel and lumed pip. Unless, that is, you can say that the Panerai abundantly used by the Italian navy divers was no diver...
You won't be timing precisely any dive with a bezel nowadays, so why bother with criterion like that. And you won't be diving any deeper than 500m even if you're a professional diver, or an experimental navy diver or... So why not enjoy the stuff for the looks and ruggedness?

 

[SimpleWatchMan]

Err ... you know that Panerai was used by the italian navy divers. But that was from 1935 till the 50s. After the release of Blancpain Fifty Fathoms in 1953, followed by Rolex Submariner in 1954. Both set the default standard for diver watch, even till today.

Do the Italian Navy diver still use non rotating bezel diver watch today? I think the answer is likely a no.

Moreover, one of the criteria of ISO 6425 (1996) stated the presence of a unidirectional bezel with at least at every 5 minutes elapsed minute markings and a pre-select marker to mark a specific minute marking.

I have a Citizen Royal Marines Commando BN0110-57E, which can goes up to 300m WR. But without the rotating bezel, I cannot regard it as a diver watch, even if it can go down to 12km.

Again, if Maria did not start with Bull Shark being a homage of the 1954 vintage Rolex diver 6204, I would not bother to give any comment. But being a member of this forum, I feel that I have the responsibilty to do so, if the design is deviated too far from the original intended design.

No problem, if you still think the fixed bezel Bull Shark is a diver watch, so be it. Your wrist, your money, I don't want to judge.

 

[Daniel Smith]

I assume you realise that the main Bull Shark model still has a (likely to be glossy) diver bezel and that the fixed bezel option is just an 'option #2' variation? If you want a dive bezel then just order option #1 of the same watch

 

[SimpleWatchMan]

I assume you realise that the main Bull Shark model still has a (likely to be glossy) diver bezel and that the fixed bezel option is just an 'option #2' variation? If you want a dive bezel then just order option #1 of the same watch

Yes, I do. I just felt strange that the Bull Shark comes with fixed bezel. But that could be just me.

Also, I am concerned this many number of options will increase the operating cost for Maria, which naturally will be pass on to the consumers like us. No matters, as long as the consumers are willing pay, all is good.

 

[Daniel Smith]

<shrug> As per my post in the other thread, as long as the option you want is available, I don't understand why the care for what other options will exist.

As for production costs, those are Maria's business, not ours. But from what I know of manufacture - it's likely producing a fixed piece of stainless steel with black inlet engraving, is a LOT cheaper than getting a custom ceramic bezel manufactured plus paying for the stainless bezel holder plus paying for rotating bezel ratchet and spring mechanism plus paying for BGW9 inlays.

So if Maria sells for the same price and cost is possibly less, it may even be a good thing financially for Borealis. Who knows - that is Maria's concern and hers alone

 

[SimpleWatchMan]

So if Maria sells for the same price and cost is possibly less, it may even be a good thing financially for Borealis. Who knows - that is Maria's concern and hers alone

Ok then. Let's see how all this will play out.

 

[Jamania]

Option A for me, I agree that a rotating bezel would be attracting to me, just for the fun of a clicking sound when manipulated. But of course it is not a serious issue as I have no "real" use of it...

 

[Victor Gospodinov]

I prefer the fixed bezel with numbers due to my vision issues