Pre-Order Borealis Seafarer II 4000m Automatic Diver Watch

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Their grey is slightly darker and from what I gathered they will release the grey when watches are in stock. Didn't reach pre-order as there was no demand for it on early stages. It is difficult to print date wheels so we are skipping that.
We are waiting for some inputs from factory to showcase the bronze.
 

Jamania

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Project is appealing... But must say, the "Citizen" look like (hands and overall look) is not original and near to copy. Borealis can do much better. Will not order this one at this state. brgds
 
As a Owner of 4 Borealis watches I Love Borealis Quality and Ideas.

But this Project I m out. See nothing really new but the depthness.

More excited about Estoril and Bronze.
 

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It has been suggested by a customer that 4000m could be a bad omen for Asian customers and if we could instead offer a spec without using 4xxxx meters.

Therefore we are revising project so that water resistance is of 3988 meters. This does not change any technical designs or construction of watch that is actually built for 5200m (resistance which we will test in some units).
 

phlabrooy

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It has been suggested by a customer that 4000m could be a bad omen for Asian customers and if we could instead offer a spec without using 4xxxx meters.

Therefore we are revising project so that water resistance is of 3988 meters. This does not change any technical designs or construction of watch that is actually built for 5200m (resistance which we will test in some units).
HaHaHa ..... I thought that I was seeing things, when the thread heading suddenly changed from 4000m ...........
Maybe that's why the DSSD is only rated to 3900m !

Yes, the number 4 might be a problem to the superstisious !!!

Regards,
 
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Pakz

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Project is appealing... But must say, the "Citizen" look like (hands and overall look) is not original and near to copy. Borealis can do much better. Will not order this one at this state. brgds
Not very "Citizen", I think... But a sort of "luxurious version" of the Seiko SKX007 or 009 dials/hands. Not the worse inspiration and a welcome change from the Rolex/Tudor/Omega inspiration for dials and hands.


Actually, it's really growing on me... We'll see in a bit when proto pictures arrive, since from the number it looks like it'll be quite massive (in the OS300 ballpark) and even if I can wear those without problem thanks to my rather meaty wrist, I'm sort of moving towards more "conservatively sized" watches.
 

phlabrooy

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Yeah, I don't see the Citizen connection really, more like a Super SKX007/009, on steroids !
It'll be big, but then again, not as big, especially L2L as the Seafarer at 53mm v 56mm. If it's more curved down lugs it might be OK, I guess. Will need to see more renders ....
But, yes, it does grow on you,the more you look at it !

Regards,
 

Itsonlytime

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Keeping the Depth rating in the 3's is fine with me, I just hope that the delivered pricing does the same, or else I would pass on this pretty ordinary tool diver.
 

Borealis Watch Admin

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I don't see where it is a pretty ordinary watch to be honest. All specs are top and quality is to be superb surpassing watches costing over 700 USD.
 

Itsonlytime

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Sorry Maria, but IMHO other than the extreme depth rating, this Seadog is pretty ordinary. The dial is a basic painted finish, the globe hour markers are used by many, the hands are Seiko type with no contrasting minute hand color (Orange), the case is typical, and the sapphire bezel is now offered by many.
As far as overall quality, I hope it will be better than the scorpionfish, which I must say I am a bit disappointed in, as the bracelet, short lasting Lume, and difficult bezel action are making me consider selling.
 

Borealis Watch Admin

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We agree to disagree in those points.

Finish of the Scorpionfish is superb and for the record was sold almost at cost price with the forum discount.

You won't find any other watch with that finish, specs and price.

As for the Seadog is built from ground up and dial is not printed but with applied indexes.

Hands are actually inspired in the Grand Seiko Diver if that helps...

If there are others offering sapphire bezels it is good for all but doubt you will be able to purchase one from less than $600.00 USD
 

Pakz

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Just a thing...
Would you consider 3989m instead of 3988m? It's actually the largest prime number smaller than 4000, would be a great "easter egg" for that watch, and would make it special to me (as well, probably as others) with a nice bit of hidden history having people wonder "why?" Plus there a 989 included in it, which is a palindrome number, for added fun and visual symmetry.
 

Pakz

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Sorry Maria, but IMHO other than the extreme depth rating, this Seadog is pretty ordinary. The dial is a basic painted finish, the globe hour markers are used by many, the hands are Seiko type with no contrasting minute hand color (Orange), the case is typical, and the sapphire bezel is now offered by many.
As far as overall quality, I hope it will be better than the scorpionfish, which I must say I am a bit disappointed in, as the bracelet, short lasting Lume, and difficult bezel action are making me consider selling.
Weird. The scorpionfish has a great fit and finish, very nice bracelet, lume that easily lasts a looong summer holidays' night and a perfect bezel action (to my tastes, but it can easily be adjusted if it does not match ones preferences).
More than a change in the colour of the minutes hand, what is important not to confuse the two at a glance when diving is size and shape difference. Which are present here in very decent quantity.

Indeed, as Maria has pointed out, most Seiko don't have colour change between minute and hour hands and still are almost universally regarded a superb diving instrument. To think about it, neither the Rolex Sub nor the Blancpain FF (the mother and father of all dive watches, and to this day the yardstick to which all are compared) do have hands of "contrasting colours".

Underwater, soon enough all colours look the same, anyway...
 

Borealis Watch Admin

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Just a thing...
Would you consider 3989m instead of 3988m? It's actually the largest prime number smaller than 4000, would be a great "easter egg" for that watch, and would make it special to me (as well, probably as others) with a nice bit of hidden history having people wonder "why?" Plus there a 989 included in it, which is a palindrome number, for added fun and visual symmetry.
I see your point but 3988 has a much better appeal to Asian customers has sounds a lot to San Jiu Ba Ba which sounds like Eternally Prosperous the 988
 

Pakz

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I see your point but 3988 has a much better appeal to Asian customers has sounds a lot to San Jiu Ba Ba which sounds like Eternally Prosperous the 988
Agreed, but.. have you got those many Asian customers sensitive to those number "similarities". Certainly they will all or almost all try to avoid things in "4" but will they be very sensitive to 3989m v 3988m ?

Any east-Asian member to chime in?
 

Borealis Watch Admin

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You are right Pakz it will not make much harm. I also speak Chinese Mandarin and Jiu Ba Jiu does not sound bad either. Can sound similar to Forever Wealthy Forever or Eternal Prosper Eternal so I think with solution you propose we kill two birds with a stone, well done!
 

hanuman69

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sin ... I had seen, long ago, on your Facebook page a beautiful dial with indexes in relief and I was hoping for a new watch to own at all costs, and instead ........ as written also another user, here is an ordinary clock, which has no "quid", the spark to be coveted and bought ....
4000mt? are not the meters or thickness to make innammorare a clock, is the design. Give me something that others do not have, and then you buy it.
 
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