Pre-Order Borealis Seafarer II 4000m Automatic Diver Watch

Pakz

Pakz

Patriarch WIS
hanuman69 said:
sin ... I had seen, long ago, on your Facebook page a beautiful dial with indexes in relief and I was hoping for a new watch to own at all costs, and instead ........ as written also another user, here is an ordinary clock, which has no "quid", the spark to be coveted and bought ....
4000mt? are not the meters or thickness to make innammorare a clock, is the design. Give me something that others do not have, and then you buy it.
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Your talking of the bronze watch that was announced on facebook. It'll be revealed in a few weeks, normally. It's a different thing from this one or the Estoril300. Another model.
You'll probably have what you wanted, and other that are interested in larger pieces with high depth rating will love this one, and others yet who love medium size military vintagy styled divers will love the Estoril.
Others like me... will be in trouble with either their beloved ones or their bankers for buying three watches in a row... or worse, five in a row if they were also on the Sea Dragon and the Scorpionfish!


I'll add that you probably should wait to see the prototypes and real pics of this one... I was a little bit disappointed at first, but it's clearly growing on me and I'm really thinking now that I'll LOOOVE it.
 
Seppia

Seppia

Master Apprentice WIS
Sorry for the OT but I have to respond to the user complaining about the scorpionfish.
Maybe you got a faulty piece, but I have NEVER in my life seen a watch with that build quality for that price, not even from Seiko or Citizen.
Tight tolerances, very nice finishing, beautiful crystal and dial.
I was so bummed it was really too big for me, the only reason why I ended up flipping it.
I really can't wait for the Estoril
 
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Itsonlytime

Master WIS
Seppia said:
Sorry for the OT but I have to respond to the user complaining about the scorpionfish.
Maybe you got a faulty piece, but I have NEVER in my life seen a watch with that build quality for that price, not even from Seiko or Citizen.
Tight tolerances, very nice finishing, beautiful crystal and dial.
I was so bummed it was really too big for me, the only reason why I ended up flipping it.
I really can't wait for the Estoril
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To further clarify my post, I state again that I suggest Borealis needs to improve their quality control in future releases.
My Scorpionfish arrived with a bezel that is very difficult to rotate, even after 10 minutes of turning, trying to loosen the action, and it is not my responsibility as a customer to have to remove and re-install the bezel, as Maria suggested.
My Scorpionfish's Lume is strong for a few hours, but diminishes substantially after 4-5 hours, that is disappointing, and the Superluminova needs to be applied better, in more layers, or thicker.
My Scorpionfish's bracelet was very disappointing. On my 6.75" wrist I cannot get the bracelet small enough, due to an insufficient number of removable links or half links, so as to get a proper fit. Also 2 link screws were stripped and would turn forever without coming out. Also trying to remove and re-attach the links back together, I found the tolerances between the 5 link sections to be too tight and hard to separate and re-attach.
My Scorpionfish's Plongeur style hour hand metal surround looks scratched in direct sunlight, and therefore does not look finished properly, or match the polished hour marker surrounds.
The case fit and finish, dial, and sapphire crystal are excellent, and I look forward to future Borealis releases as I truly believe that Maria and her team care about their products and customers.
 
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TheWraith

TheWraith

Master WIS
Yes, I feel similar in some ways, at least about the bracelet. It doesn't fit me well enough, and while I could get a rubber strap for it, I realise I do prefer SS bracelets. Also, I don't like that the crown is so wobbly when extended, and I think it should have crown guards. So, as much as I enjoy my Scorpionfish, I think I will prefer Borealis' new Seadog, and so I'll be selling my SF (will be live in eBay tomorrow) to help fund the doggie :)

Going back to talking about the Seadog...a few questions, Maria, if I may. Firstly, will the bracelet taper from 24mm to 20mm like the Scorpionfish? I really liked that level of tapering. Gives the bracelet a real classy feel. Also, will the HEV be at the 9 o'clock position on the case? And lastly, will we see some profile rendering of the watch at some point?

Thanks so much :D
 
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AVS_Racing

Master Apprentice WIS
As a previous owner of the Seafarer, current owner or Sea Dragon and Scorpion Fish, more lume is a good thing. I would say the lume on the Sea Dragon and Scorpion Fish to be good BUT I know there is room for improvement, it just doesn't have the POP or Intensity of C3.

Another thing is, is there any way to make the case a bit smaller? The size is really similar to the old Sea Farer and I found the L2L to be a bit too long especially with the extended first lug design. I found my arm getting really tired from wearing it on the bracelet. My wrist is about 7"+ depending on the temp. It was one of the main reasons why I sold it, cuz the L2L was too long to wear it comfortably for a long time.

Maybe also flip the crown around to 9 o'clock so it doesn't dig into the wrist?
 
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AVS_Racing

Master Apprentice WIS
And yes ^^ is there any way to make the crown action less wobbly / more solid when pulled out, I received a few watches in the last few weeks all 9015 and the Scorpion fish was really wobbly. Scorpion fish was ok but my CH6 and Explorer 2 was very very solid and needed force to even turn the crown when unscrewed, like there was a resistance which made it feel very solid.
 
Borealis Watch Admin

Borealis Watch Admin

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AVS_Racing said:
As a previous owner of the Seafarer, current owner or Sea Dragon and Scorpion Fish, more lume is a good thing. I would say the lume on the Sea Dragon and Scorpion Fish to be good BUT I know there is room for improvement, it just doesn't have the POP or Intensity of C3.

Another thing is, is there any way to make the case a bit smaller? The size is really similar to the old Sea Farer and I found the L2L to be a bit too long especially with the extended first lug design. I found my arm getting really tired from wearing it on the bracelet. My wrist is about 7"+ depending on the temp. It was one of the main reasons why I sold it, cuz the L2L was too long to wear it comfortably for a long time.

Maybe also flip the crown around to 9 o'clock so it doesn't dig into the wrist?
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The Seadog is a very much improved Seafarer with considerably better specs. We reduced lug to lug from 55 to 53mm and case also sits better on wrist and the bracelet end link also accommodates better smaller wrists.

You can not compare crown of the Scorpionfish to the one in the Seadog as the Seadog has a crown guard and crown can have a more firm feel. Also nothing wrong with the Scorpionfish. Crown was made that way to avoid users breaking stem.

The Seadog has a C3 option.

 
TheWraith

TheWraith

Master WIS
Whether it was made that way or not, I do not like a crown that is quite that wobbly when fully extended. From extensive past experience, I know it can easily be damaged that way. But thank you for your answers to my questions, Maria. I look forward to learning more about the Seadog as the days and weeks progress. Depending on the price, I feel very likely to purchase this one. I love the look of it very much :)
 
Borealis Watch Admin

Borealis Watch Admin

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We are working out in some other renders of the Seadog to see if watch can be further improved. All inputs are much appreciated as this is our biggest project ever.
 
TheWraith

TheWraith

Master WIS
Wonderful! But don't tamper with the look of the dial too much. This watch has the look I very much prefer. I like that this is being considered as a corrected Seafarer. That notion appeals to me. And, please try to ensure the bezel markers line up with the dial hour markers. The Sea Hawk nailed this aspect perfectly, but the Scorpionfish was off a bit. A pet peeve of mine.

Looking forward to the pre-order process...
 
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bill anagnos

WIS
Honestly, I would like a deep sea homage down to the ceramic bezel with correct markings on bezel, Mercedes hands, and a tapered bracelet, but the tapered bracelet is not a deal breaker, will this be PVD or DLC coating ?
 
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bill anagnos

WIS
also on my seafarer the bracelet links stick at time and are hard to undue, and it seems as some one else had this issue that the power reserve is low when putting the watch on a table for the night, not sure why, I think it has something to do with the watch weight?
 
TheWraith

TheWraith

Master WIS
bill anagnos said:
Honestly, I would like a deep sea homage down to the ceramic bezel with correct markings on bezel, Mercedes hands, and a tapered bracelet, but the tapered bracelet is not a deal breaker, will this be PVD or DLC coating ?
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I like the hands that exist on the current Seadog render now, but there are probably a few other hands that I would like also. I like the design of the dial as it exists now, though, and would not want to see it changed. But I agree with Bill, I love truly tapered bracelets. They lend a style and elegance that non or only slightly tapered bracelets can't quite match.
 
Borealis Watch Admin

Borealis Watch Admin

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Bracelet will taper from 24mm to 22mm. Problem with tapering from 24mm to 20mm is that then it won't be easy to ajdust bracelet and people with small wrists will complain (something that happened with the Scorpionfish).

With a 24mm bracelet tapering to 22mm all 22mm links can have screws and be added/removed.

I would like to departure from the Rolex theme on this one and using more a dial/hands combination like the Seiko Marine Master Professional (aside from the seconds hand that I do not like). It would suite well this type of watch.



As for the name if Seadog does not appeal much we can call it the Seafarer II
 
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