RoadWarrior
WIS
Thanks for the answer,I like this one ,your not making it easy to just choose one with so many great choices,not sure if the black has been decided as DLC,but if so would like to grab the DLC version and a SS.
Pre-Order Borealis Seafarer II 4000m Automatic Diver Watch
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Itsonlytime
Master WIS
Maria, as far as the handset, please consider a set that is similar to the Deep Blue Depthmaster 3K.
These are well styled, have a large (incredibly strong - lasting all night) Lume area, and fit the overall style of a deep diver.
They also utilize an orange surround minute hand, which I think adds an additional benefit.
I have 3 of these beauties, an they are truly excellent deep dive watches.
These are well styled, have a large (incredibly strong - lasting all night) Lume area, and fit the overall style of a deep diver.
They also utilize an orange surround minute hand, which I think adds an additional benefit.
I have 3 of these beauties, an they are truly excellent deep dive watches.
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There was no DLC version that is to represent lume in darkness.
That style you refer to is similar to proposal with the modern pencil hands that we offered in the scorpionfish.
RoadWarrior
WIS
When does the Pre-Order open on these,or no date is set yet? Thanks
RoadWarrior
WIS
Thanks my bad,seen the Estoril was being produced in DLC for pre-order phase ,sorry for making the wrong assumption,would have been nice but there are still may very good options in the SS .
The Estoril 300 will also likely not be offered in DLC as we were going to launch it with 1 dial version and currently we have already 4 different configurations.
As for the Seafarer II we are just waiting for hands set to be more harmoniously accepted. We should be able to offer an updated design this weekend or Monday with the modern pencil hands.
RoadWarrior
WIS
Thanks for your answer and the update on the DLC Estoril.
Pakz
Patriarch WIS
I really hate most of the newly proposed hands, except may the modern stencil type that is on the scorpionfish.
But they're really bland looking on this watch, and I fear they'll look too small.
The first proposed set was really nice, though. And a few changes to the newly proposed version could make them also great.
I'll try to do a quick and dirty...
But they're really bland looking on this watch, and I fear they'll look too small.
The first proposed set was really nice, though. And a few changes to the newly proposed version could make them also great.
I'll try to do a quick and dirty...
Pakz
Patriarch WIS
I feel more comfortable with this than the second set you proposed, Maria, while they still retain the same "vintage Tuna" styling (which is quite attractive and works fine on a big deep diver).
What I've done is shorten a bit the counterweight on the minutes hand and broaden a bit the lower (or more central, if you wish) part of the hours hand.
It's not super well made but I guess you'll get the idea well enough...
What I've done is shorten a bit the counterweight on the minutes hand and broaden a bit the lower (or more central, if you wish) part of the hours hand.
It's not super well made but I guess you'll get the idea well enough...
TheWraith
Master WIS
Well done, Maria. I really like the changes you've made to the Seafarer Mk II. I love the 24mm-20mm taper (does the Scorpionfish look any less of a tool watch with a 4mm taper? Of course not), I love the 4000m markings returned, and I love the overall design.
As for hands...I would prefer either the original hands or these illustrated below (the ones that were once suggested for the SF). Either way, I'm very pleased with the development of this timepiece
As for hands...I would prefer either the original hands or these illustrated below (the ones that were once suggested for the SF). Either way, I'm very pleased with the development of this timepiece
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TheWraith
Master WIS
So long as the dial, bezel and bracelet 4mm taper remains as it currently stands, then I'm in for pre-ordering. The hands aren't as important to me as those other aspects, but my favourite two sets of hands are the original handset for the Seafarer Mk II and the handset originally earmarked for the Scorpionfish. Either of those are the best so far shown IMO.
This watch is very exciting for me. It beats the Deep Sea in terms of water resistance, and it's smaller than the Deep Sea in diameter and less thick too. Overall, a much better watch across the board. So long as it keeps the above specs I outlined, I'll buy this without hesitation at all
This watch is very exciting for me. It beats the Deep Sea in terms of water resistance, and it's smaller than the Deep Sea in diameter and less thick too. Overall, a much better watch across the board. So long as it keeps the above specs I outlined, I'll buy this without hesitation at all
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awasson5
Perfect Apprentice WIS
We are open to suggestions on the watch hands (as dial, chapter ring, bezel look good in my opinion).
So suggestions so far:
We could use similar hands (not the dial) as proposed initially on the Scorpionfish
Modern pencil hands as in the Borealis Scorpionfish
Beuchat Ushuaia serpent minute hand style
more suggestions?
I think the current hands are not as bad as a few individuals have contended. That said, I think I would prefer the initial Scorpionfish hands. But at the end of it all, the specs of this watch is what really appeals. 4000m (or thereabouts) WR? This is the amazing aspect, challenging that other Swiss brand's benchmark. Truth is, all the hands choices would be fine and would make an amazing piece.
Maria, I want to personally thank you and Borealis for the work you do. I am proud to wear your pieces and look forward to this and all future projects.
I have been looking at hundreds of pictures of hands ...........
May I know what was the reason to alter the original render, Maria ?
My humble suggestion, would be to stick with the original style, which I feel really suits that dial.
The newer design is really awful, at least the back counter balance of the minute hand. Pak's alteration is lots better, but that would need a special order, no ?
Actually, hanuman69's suggestion too is OK, it need not be in orange, though. A lot better than the new proposal !
Regards,
May I know what was the reason to alter the original render, Maria ?
My humble suggestion, would be to stick with the original style, which I feel really suits that dial.
The newer design is really awful, at least the back counter balance of the minute hand. Pak's alteration is lots better, but that would need a special order, no ?
Actually, hanuman69's suggestion too is OK, it need not be in orange, though. A lot better than the new proposal !
Regards,
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Pakz
Patriarch WIS
Personally I find the hands to be VERY important. Way way more than the number written on the dial, or any sort of "literature", name or logo... It's the visual identity of the watch and since I'm not diving to more than 60-65m anyway, even the technical performance is clearly less important. That being said, the first type of hands was good. Maybe a bit small and "usual" if you really wanted to find problems. But they were good.
Among those proposed after the "new ones" with the Seiko Tuna styling are the "least catastrophic". I could see myself buying the watch with them.
The "screwdriver hand set" (or snake head): deal breaker.
The "proposed for the scorpionfish" (with the Chris Ward/Bremont hour hand): massive deal breaker (the one reason I never got and never will get a CW trident or a Bremont)
The modern pencil set as found on the scorpionfish is a possibility but I fear it'll look small and bland on that big nasty deep diver. To be tested, however.
Now the one set I modified, I like very much, as I feel it retains the bold and original nature of the original "Tuna style" but in a more balanced (to my eyes) fashion. But... as phlabrooy pointed, that probably means special order, added costs, and so on, and that's probably to be avoided, as "mega value is the thing" at Borealis!
So all in all...
1°The set I modded I like the best, but...
2°The set in the first renders, on the first page, is great.
3°The set in the second render, I could learn to love it.
4°The modern pencil could possibly do.
The other things mentioned/showed are big, resounding, NOs.
Among those proposed after the "new ones" with the Seiko Tuna styling are the "least catastrophic". I could see myself buying the watch with them.
The "screwdriver hand set" (or snake head): deal breaker.
The "proposed for the scorpionfish" (with the Chris Ward/Bremont hour hand): massive deal breaker (the one reason I never got and never will get a CW trident or a Bremont)
The modern pencil set as found on the scorpionfish is a possibility but I fear it'll look small and bland on that big nasty deep diver. To be tested, however.
Now the one set I modified, I like very much, as I feel it retains the bold and original nature of the original "Tuna style" but in a more balanced (to my eyes) fashion. But... as phlabrooy pointed, that probably means special order, added costs, and so on, and that's probably to be avoided, as "mega value is the thing" at Borealis!
So all in all...
1°The set I modded I like the best, but...
2°The set in the first renders, on the first page, is great.
3°The set in the second render, I could learn to love it.
4°The modern pencil could possibly do.
The other things mentioned/showed are big, resounding, NOs.
Pakz
Patriarch WIS
Not very likely, methinks.
The "superdome" like that on the A1 are a bit cumbersome, but add that the what needs to be a thick case already, and you'll get a massive super bulky anchor of a watch!
Maria was speaking of slightly domed crystal I think. It should give nice reflection, a little bit of distortion, good pressure resistance (the key point) while not being too huge.
Crystal is slightly domed to minimize distortion. Actually this configuration is a lot more expensive than a superdomed glass.