Pre-Order Borealis Estoril 300m Automatic
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Toh
Apprentice WIS
The dimesions are spot on! looks really really good!!!Tecnhical drawing showcasing asymmetric shape of the Borealis Estoril 300 case
love the thin case profile
Have never been this excited to part with my money except for this pre-order! lol
watchingwatches
Perfect Apprentice WIS
Maria, it looks as though the Seafarer II is going to make it to preorder before the Estoril. Can you give us a guesstimate on the timeframe for the Estoril to get to preorder? Thanks.
SimpleWatchMan
Master WIS
Yes, the top surface of the sapphire bezel will be reflective. But I think it will be much readable directly face-on, as it is flat. The Steinhart sapphire is a tapered cone geometry, which you will see more reflected light when you read the dial directly face-on.
What is the thickness of the Watchco Seamaster 300, I was wondering, as a matter of interest ?
Regards,
Marc141081
WIS
I Hope there will be a combination discount if Taking 2 or 3 watches.
Pakz
Patriarch WIS
Should be 13mm like the original since it's built from NOS Omega pieces... except the movement which is an old but freshly overhauled thing.
Pakz
Patriarch WIS
I can take your money, no problem... Only thing, I won't deliver any Estoril 300. The one I'll get, I'll keep!
We have received now quotation for the sapphire insert ... waiting just quotation for the double domed glass.
Be aware just the sapphire insert alone will have a cost price of $50.00 USD (our own cost not the retail cost) ... This due to fact of the custom diameter size as factory is not able to have economies of scale with this project as diameter of sapphire cut is not used by any other customer.
Be aware just the sapphire insert alone will have a cost price of $50.00 USD (our own cost not the retail cost) ... This due to fact of the custom diameter size as factory is not able to have economies of scale with this project as diameter of sapphire cut is not used by any other customer.
A decision on using sapphire has been done. A ceramic bezel wouldn't look like the original. The sapphire is the closest there is.
I am explaining costs to all so that you can see we are not gouging on the price of the Estoril 300. It will be fairly priced for the specs and our margins are quite small.
I am explaining costs to all so that you can see we are not gouging on the price of the Estoril 300. It will be fairly priced for the specs and our margins are quite small.
I think a different choice would be a nonsense.
I'd go straight with +50$ for it!
You know how these sapphire bezels are machined?
Are they made by CNC from a full sapphire disc?
The only informations I found on sapphire glass manufacturing is smartphone related:
EDIT: Just checked with "sapphire glass manufacturing" on youtube... there's plenty of informations
Interesting site of a swiss manufacturer: http://www.kyburz-cie.ch/en/company
Checking the timeline looks like sapphire technology was setup on 1978
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Yes, factory manufactures a sapphire tube with a bit larger diameter than the bezel and then it is CNC cut. Lots of scrapping occurs as some crack during cutting.
Be aware costs are much higher than the ones used in mobile phones as quality (transparency) and thickness differ considerably and quantities manufactured are much lower.
Be aware costs are much higher than the ones used in mobile phones as quality (transparency) and thickness differ considerably and quantities manufactured are much lower.
So if I undestand you have many additional costs.
Custom tube manufacturing (tool) with dedicated process setup and CNC machining with low numbers (so machines setup cost will be high related to quantities).
Just to have a full view on the process... the bezel is later printed on the backside with kind of UV inks?
And just another question... could the bezel be manufactured in acrylic glass or mineral glass?
Custom tube manufacturing (tool) with dedicated process setup and CNC machining with low numbers (so machines setup cost will be high related to quantities).
Just to have a full view on the process... the bezel is later printed on the backside with kind of UV inks?
And just another question... could the bezel be manufactured in acrylic glass or mineral glass?
No, there is a layer made with a special film that is printed and then attached to bezel underneath.
This project deserves top materials not cheap ones. I am just divulging this all as many are likely expecting price to be similar to the Sea Dragon which is impossible.
Neither Borealis nor any other watch company would be able to do so. That would be deceiving unless it was all out of charity and we are a running business.
However expect offer to be fairly competitive for the specs offered.
This project deserves top materials not cheap ones. I am just divulging this all as many are likely expecting price to be similar to the Sea Dragon which is impossible.
Neither Borealis nor any other watch company would be able to do so. That would be deceiving unless it was all out of charity and we are a running business.
However expect offer to be fairly competitive for the specs offered.
SimpleWatchMan
Master WIS
Maria,
Thank you for doing this project. I see the huge value in it and I understand this will be costly. If everything goes as what you had present, I am ready to preorder as follows.
1) Black dial, big triangle, no date, meshed bracelet.
2) Blue dial, 12 hour, date, nato strap (rustic blue preferred).
But I will only buy 2 if the price is right (and due limited budget).
Looking forward to your pricing and preorder date.
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Itsonlytime
Master WIS
A bit concerned about your pricing warning Maria.
I guess sometimes producing a direct homage may not be worth it. I personally would have voted for a polished ceramic bezel inlay instead of sapphire, so as to keep the cost down.
If the pre-order pricing goes above $300 on this 41mm design, I probably will back away, and just jump on 2 of your 3 new offerings.
I guess sometimes producing a direct homage may not be worth it. I personally would have voted for a polished ceramic bezel inlay instead of sapphire, so as to keep the cost down.
If the pre-order pricing goes above $300 on this 41mm design, I probably will back away, and just jump on 2 of your 3 new offerings.
Lexvil
Perfect Apprentice WIS
I've seen people pay over $1000 for a horribly designed and executed watch (resco) but here we have people balking about what appears to be one the best watch styles of all time costing over $300?? I would pay that for the case alone. I would have preferred a ceramic bezel but I have no big issue with the design as is.
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